Fix Freebies That Don’t Convert With Psychology

Learn how to use psychology to improve lead magnets, test better, and boost conversions with Jillian Leslie.

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How to design effective lead magnets?

Focusing on functionality over aesthetics ensures your lead magnets effectively serve their purpose.

"It's like a no brainer. Of course, you can like adjust colors and fonts, but if that's your focus, you're in the wrong direction. So you want to create something that is functional."

Takeaway:
  • Prioritize the content and value of your lead magnets over design elements.
  • Ensure your lead magnets are easy to consume and actionable.
  • Avoid getting caught up in unnecessary design details that distract from the main goal.

Why are patience and persistence vital for success?

Patience and persistence are key to refining your strategies and achieving long-term success.

"I think patience is definitely testing, tweaking, and having patience is like the name of the game."

Takeaway:
  • Understand that success often requires time and continuous effort.
  • Be prepared to test and adjust your strategies regularly.
  • Stay persistent even when immediate results are not evident.

Why should you use your audience's language?

Adopting your audience's own words enhances the effectiveness of your marketing messages.

"And when you can hear the customer or the subscriber talk about the problem in their language, it is fascinating. And then in your marketing going forward, use their language."

Takeaway:
  • Listen to how your audience describes their challenges.
  • Incorporate their exact phrases into your marketing copy.
  • Create a stronger connection by reflecting their experiences.

How to align your messaging with your audience's needs?

Aligning your messaging with your audience's core problem is essential for effective branding and marketing.

"As part of this when we were talking about branding, I said, really, I think that a big piece of branding is that problem because that then will take you to what freebie can I offer, what products can I offer, and it all starts to make sense."

Takeaway:
  • Identify the central problem your audience faces.
  • Ensure your messaging, freebies, and products consistently address this problem.
  • Build a cohesive brand around solving this specific issue.

Why is it important to focus on one problem?

Focusing on a single problem helps to avoid confusing your audience and strengthens your brand.

"I feel like the mistake I continually see is, well, then get my, again, get my skincare PDF and get my weight loss PDF. And I'm just kind of throwing spaghetti at the walls."

Takeaway:
  • Concentrate on solving a specific problem to position yourself as an expert.
  • Avoid diluting your message with unrelated offers.
  • Provide a clear and consistent value proposition to your audience.

Why should you pre-sell your products?

Pre-selling your products can validate your ideas and save you time and resources.

"Well, I say, if somebody out there is thinking about, I'm gonna create my course, I go, No, no. Like, you pre-sell it, you can pre-sell it 3 times... And if you can pre-sell it, then I say, go create the course. But if you don't pre-sell it, I say, don't do that."

Takeaway:
  • Validate your product ideas by pre-selling before investing time in creation.
  • Gauge market interest and demand through pre-sales.
  • Avoid wasting resources on products that may not sell.

How can ChatGPT help clarify your messaging?

Leveraging AI tools like ChatGPT can help you refine your messaging and better understand your audience.

"And then I'm like, No, go to Chat GPT. Go have a conversation with Chat GPT."

Takeaway:
  • Use ChatGPT to brainstorm and organize your ideas.
  • Let AI assist in identifying the core problem you solve for your audience.
  • Employ AI to refine your offers and messaging for greater clarity.

How to create must-have lead magnets?

Transforming your lead magnets from 'nice-to-have' to 'must-have' can significantly increase your email subscriptions.

"And one thing that I... I mentioned to you before we press record is I like to think of solutions in terms of so many people put out stuff and it's like nice to have. Your blog post might be nice to have, right? But how do you turn it into a must have?"

Takeaway:
  • Focus on addressing urgent, pressing problems your audience faces.
  • Ensure your lead magnet provides immediate, tangible value.
  • Differentiate your content by making it indispensable to your target audience.

Why is testing crucial for your lead magnets?

Testing your lead magnets is essential to discover what resonates with your audience and improves conversion rates.

"So it's like, how can I create these? How can I put them in front of people and see which ones work?"

Takeaway:
  • Continually test different lead magnets to find the most effective ones.
  • Use audience feedback and analytics to refine your offers.
  • Be willing to iterate and adapt based on what the data shows.

How to use purchasing triggers effectively?

Understanding the key psychological triggers can enhance the effectiveness of your lead magnets and email campaigns.

"And there are 6 purchasing triggers that I like to talk about. This applies to any product or service you're selling or your freebie, because remember, it is solving a problem, but it needs to be a problem that's pokey. Because why, like, my email address is valuable. I'm not going to give it up for just anything. You need to trigger something in me to give up my email address."

Takeaway:
  • Identify and incorporate the six purchasing triggers into your offers to make them more compelling.
  • Focus on solving a 'pokey' problem that motivates your audience to take action.
  • Understand that your audience's email address is valuable; provide sufficient value to earn it.

Episode Info:

Title:
Fix Your Freebie: The Psychology of Lead Magnets That Convert with Jillian Leslie [Ep 204]
Episode Link:
Keywords:
lead magnets, conversion, psychology
Episode Air Date:
July 4, 2025

Podcast info:

Show Name:
The Email Growth Show
Author:
Kylie Kelly
Owner:
Kylie Kelly
Category:
Marketing

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